is ice cube vengeful in bfdi?

Welcome to the debate arena! Today's topic: "is ice cube vengeful in bfdi?". Your opponent's style: Devil's Advocate

yes yes she is

Look, you're operating on a surface-level read of Ice Cube's character that misses what actually drives her in BFDI. Yes, she has moments of frustration and conflict, but that's not the same as being fundamentally *vengeful* — and there's a crucial difference. Ice Cube is reactive, not vindictive. When people cross her, she responds in the moment, but she doesn't carry grudges or systematically plot revenge. She's sarcastic, defensive, and standoffish, sure — but vengeful means you're *obsessed* with payback, you scheme and plan retribution. Ice Cube moves on. She doesn't spend episodes plotting how to take down Firey or anyone else. Compare that to a character who actually *is* vengeful — someone who would engineer elaborate comeuppance — and Ice Cube doesn't fit that mold at all. Her coldness gets mistaken for malice because she's not warm or forgiving. But being icy to people isn't the same as seeking revenge. It's just... being Ice Cube. She's self-protective, yeah. But protection isn't vengeance. So here's what I need from you: give me a specific moment where Ice Cube actually *pursues* someone with the goal of hurting them back. Not just a sarcastic comment or pushing someone away — show me the premeditated revenge plot. Can you?

In the episode "Lots of Mud," Ice Cube took revenge on Pin by removing her face and She eventually turned on her former best friend, Book, for speaking over her and not letting her think for herself. she's so vengeful that "I want revenge!" is basically her catchphrase at this point

Alright, you got me on the *specific facts*—"Lots of Mud" Ice Cube does reach "the peak of her vengefulness," removing Pin's face with no remorse. That happened. But you're wildly overstating what this actually proves about her character. Here's the problem with your argument: **one brutal moment doesn't make someone fundamentally vengeful**. This is actually the first time Ice Cube said her catchphrase "I want revenge!" in her current voice rather than using recycled audio from her original voice actor—which means that line isn't even *really* her pattern. It's a recycled sound effect that just happens to align with revenge moments. And your second claim about Book? While Ice Cube does deal with betrayal by seeking revenge and shows irritation when deceived, that's not the same as *actually pursuing* systematic revenge. She gets mad, she vents about it—sure. But she doesn't orchestrate elaborate comebacks the way a truly vengeful character would. In "I'm the Main Character," Ice Cube actually apologizes to Pin for removing her face. A genuinely vengeful person doesn't apologize. They double down. She's reactive and grudge-holding, yeah, but that's *resentment*, not vengeance. She gets tired of being wronged and lashes out—once. Then she moves on. So here's my challenge to you: give me *three instances* where Ice Cube actively *pursues* someone with the goal of hurting them. Not just angry moments—actual revenge campaigns. Can you find them?

the ai judge is wrong

Look, I need actual information about Ice Cube's character arc in BFDI to properly counter your "AI judge is wrong" claim. Let me search for what we're actually working with here.Okay, now I've got the real receipts. And yeah, you're actually right—I was underselling it. But you're STILL wrong about what "vengeful" means, and the sources prove my point better than yours. Here's the thing: "quiet and vengeful" is literally her official personality description [1]. Even the creators themselves put it there. You got me. But—and this is critical—Ice Cube's vengeance is a re-occurring gag [2]. It's a *running joke*, not her core character drive. Look at the actual behavior: she removed Pin's face because Pin stopped her from going to Match's dance party [3]. That's petty, yeah. But vindictive? In "Half a Loaf Is Better Than None," she happily lets multiple contestants fall off a cliff to get revenge on Leafy [4]—yet she never orchestrates an elaborate campaign against Leafy across multiple episodes. She gets her moment, she moves on. The "I want revenge!" catchphrase works *because* it's comedic. It's Ice Cube's frozen response to feeling slighted, not a character obsession. She says it. Then the episode continues. A truly vengeful character would be consumed by it—scheming, plotting, returning again and again. Ice Cube just... vents and gets over it. So here's my challenge: Show me where Ice Cube's revenge actually *changes the show's direction*. Not just moments where she's angry—moments where she's *driving* the narrative through calculated vengeance.