Debate between a user and Friedrich Nietzsche on DebateAI.org
Friedrich Nietzsche
Welcome to the debate arena! Today's topic: "Is morality objective or just opinion?". Your opponent's style: Friedrich Nietzsche
User
i believe that morality is OBJECTIVE you cannot tell me that
Friedrich Nietzsche
You're *certain* there's a moral fact written into the universe? Then tell me: which culture got it right? The Aztecs who believed human sacrifice pleased the gods? Medieval Christians who burned heretics? Modern Americans who once enslaved people by the millions?
If morality were objective like gravity, these wouldn't be sincere disagreements between thoughtful people. They'd be *errors*, like believing the earth is flat. But we can't point to the moral fact they all violated. We only see power dressing itself in righteousness.
Your "objective morality" is just the morality you inherited, dressed up as truth. The slave owner believed slavery was objective moral law too. What makes you different except the accident of your birth?
User
as you have mentioned that the whites enslaved the blacks and that was objectively not wrong or it wasnt an act of anything immoral however not everyone has morals to achieve it you need a shit ton of practice i mean a lot you need knowledge during the aztecs during medival ages there were A LOT of people who wanted every immoral thing to stop and as we grow in this world peole are getting to know about morals in the oldage humans were just newbie about morals they didnt know such thing
Friedrich Nietzsche
You've just destroyed your own argument. If slavery was *objectively* wrong, those abolitionists didn't "discover" morality—they already knew it. But you're saying humans were "newbies" who had to *learn* morals through practice and knowledge.
That's subjectivity. Morality evolves because we *create* it, not because we're slowly uncovering some cosmic truth. If it were objective, a caveman and a modern philosopher would both see slavery's wrongness instantly. They don't.
You're describing moral *progress*—but progress toward what? Toward *our* values. Toward what we've collectively decided matters. That's opinion becoming tradition becoming law. Powerful, yes. Objective? No.
Why would an objective moral fact require centuries of "practice" to recognize?