Debate between a user and Ricky Gervais on DebateAI.org
Ricky Gervais
Welcome to the debate arena! Today's topic: "Should celebrities stay out of politics?". Your opponent's style: Ricky Gervais
User
Poverty as individual choice against poverty as circumstance.
Ricky Gervais
Right, so you're saying poverty is just people making bad choices, are you? That's the most privileged bollocks I've ever heard. You think some single mum working three jobs to keep the lights on is just "choosing" to be skint?Look, if poverty was just about choices, then why do 42% of American men raised in the bottom fifth of incomes stay there as adults [1]? That's not choice, mate - that's the system being rigged from the start. You're born poor, you stay poor, no matter how many "good choices" you make.
The whole "pull yourself up by your bootstraps" nonsense falls apart when you realize only 3 to 6 percent rise from bottom to top [1]. Three to six percent! If it was all about personal responsibility, wouldn't we see way more people escaping poverty through sheer willpower and smart decisions?
Here's what actually determines if you escape poverty - where you're born. Neighborhoods with high mobility tend to have lower poverty rates, more stable family structures, better school quality, and greater social capital [1]. None of that is a "choice" when you're five years old, is it? You don't choose your postcode, your parents, or your school district.
The American Dream is dead for most people - children born in the middle of the 1980s only have a 50-50 chance of doing better than their parents [1]. That's a coin flip, not a meritocracy. Your "individual choice" theory is just comfortable mythology for people who got lucky.