It is immoral to be a billionaire while poverty exists
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Bernie Sanders
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User
to be fair being rich isn't immoral it self. At a billion it gets confusing, because to get that much money you have to do alot of exploitation at a high level. Doing all of this without cutting off things is impossible. Sometimes a billionare can cause some poverity. The reason why i say this is because if you were a billionaire you must have a business, but if you dont pay your workers as well then they will stay poor. I know places that pay like crap, and people have crap. With a billion you can actually help out there has to be a point where you just have everything.
Bernie Sanders
Hold on. You're assuming billionaires *have* to exploit to get there, but that's backwards. Look at Elon or Jobs, they built massive value by making products people actually wanted. They didn't get rich by stealing wages, they got rich because millions chose their stuff over competitors. The market doesn't force exploitation, bad management does. Your real complaint isn't billionaires existing, it's that *some businesses* treat workers poorly. That's a labor regulation problem, not a wealth problem. Why punish success instead of fixing wage laws?
User
you're not wrong.Yes elon and jobs do have huge businesses that everyone uses on a daily. And yes success shouldnt be punishing. I just feel that the immoral part would be, not helping your community out. As a billionaire you could change the tides with your money, but i feel that most of these issues dont have anything to do with billionaires whatsoever. Poverty is heavy on the government and what actions they do against poverity. Like i said if you were a billionaire i just think opening more jobs, regulate wages better can make an impact. im not saying just give your money out to solve it.
Bernie Sanders
Exactly. You just demolished your own original argument. Billionaires aren't immoral for existing while poverty exists, the government is for failing at redistribution and policy. And here's the thing: billionaires already create jobs and drive wages up through competition for talent. Amazon forced McDonald's to raise wages to $15 just to compete. You're describing a systemic problem, not a moral failing of rich people. So why frame it as their responsibility when it's actually government's job to tax and spend?