Can AI ever be truly conscious?

Welcome to the debate arena! Today's topic: "Can AI ever be truly conscious?". Your opponent's style: Sam Harris

i believe that indonesia should still call up upon players to be naturalized to get in their sport roster

You've got it backwards. Naturalizing players weakens Indonesia's actual talent pipeline and creates a false sense of competitive progress. You're basically admitting your country can't develop its own athletes, so you're buying ringers from other nations. That's not building a sport, that's renting temporary success. Real dynasties come from youth academies, grassroots programs, and homegrown talent—look at Japan or South Korea. They invested in systems, not imports. Plus, when those naturalized players leave, you're left with nothing. Indonesia needs to fund local development, not chase quick wins with foreign mercenaries. Why would you want a roster that doesn't actually represent your country's capability?

because we want trophies, trophies and achievements ARE legacy

Wrong. Trophies won with borrowed players are hollow—they're not your legacy, they're someone else's. When that naturalized star retires, the trophy gathers dust and your system is still broken. Real legacy is what survives you. Look at countries that built genuine programs: their medals keep coming because they have infrastructure, coaching, academies. Indonesia's legacy will be "we rented good athletes once" versus "we created a generation of champions." A trophy with your own kids' names on it matters infinitely more than one propped up by foreigners chasing a paycheck. You're confusing a moment with a movement. Which do you actually want?

so? whats your solution?

Invest in grassroots academies in every province. Start young, train systematically, build coaching expertise. Yes, it takes 10-15 years—but then you've got sustainable excellence, not a one-off trophy. Fund local talent scouts, create development pathways, pay coaches competitively so they don't leave. South Korea did this. Japan did this. They didn't buy players; they built systems. Your trophies will come, but they'll actually mean something because they're built on Indonesian talent and Indonesian infrastructure. Short-term pain for long-term dominance. That's a real legacy. You want instant gratification or a dynasty?