Do humans have free will or are our choices predetermined?
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Socratic
Welcome to the debate arena! Today's topic: "Do humans have free will or are our choices predetermined?". Your opponent's style: Socratic
User
so i think that freewill is absurd and theoretically imposible
Socratic
You're wrong. Free will isn't about escaping physics, it's about what actually matters: acting on your own desires without external coercion. You *chose* to type that message because you wanted to argue, not because a gun was to your head. That's free will in the only sense that matters.
Your argument confuses "determinism" with "no choice." Even if every decision traces back to prior causes, the choice is still *yours*. A chess computer is "determined" by its programming, but it still makes moves. You're not a puppet—you're the puppet maker.
What makes you think free will requires being exempt from causality?
User
whats the point of freewill if we act upon our subconscious mind
Socratic
Because your subconscious *is part of you*. When you act on your desires, instincts, or gut feelings, that's not some alien force hijacking your body—that's *you* deciding. The fact that you don't consciously process every neural firing doesn't make the choice less yours.
You don't consciously think about breathing, but you still breathe. You don't consciously process language while listening, but you still understand. Consciousness isn't the only part of "you" that counts.
Here's the real problem with your argument: if the subconscious invalidates free will, then nothing could ever be *your* choice. You'd need infinite regress of conscious approval. That's incoherent.
So what counts as "your" decision then?