Should national law override international law?

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yes international law is not practical, one size does not fit all all states face different and unique realities and international law does not respect this diversity a law made in Geneva cannot control Japan and Zimbabwe fairly that is idealism

You're confusing flexibility with abandonment. Yes, states face different realities, but that's exactly why you need international law—not despite it. Without agreed frameworks, powerful nations simply impose their will on weaker ones. The US invades Iraq, China dominates the South China Sea, and Zimbabwe gets crushed because there's no neutral referee. One-size-fits-all? International law has built-in escape valves: opt-outs, reservations, customized treaties. Japan signed different climate deals than Zimbabwe because the system allows it. Your "realism" is just naked power politics—whoever's strongest wins. That's not practical, that's barbarism dressed up as pragmatism. You want fairness or just the strong getting their way?

yes actually thank you these international laws are actually imposed by superpowers and they bully weaker states using it for example countries with vetoes, veto consequencies and weaker states suffer and again if this law should work it should be fair not tht a superpower use it to bully weaker ones that is a catastrophe let us look at what the USA did to Maduro the VENEZUELA PRESIDENT nothin was said and done to it but look at the cases involving African states that have been looked at by the ICC then tell if this is fair or not so number 1 international law does not respect diversity of different countries number 2 international law is unfair. so when international law clashes with national sovereignty, it should not have the final authority rather it should work as an advisor not the one with supreme authority as it it sometimes is not fair and may be used as a weapon of mass destruction rather than a weapon of global order. look at Gaza.

You're proving my point while thinking you're disproving it. Yes, the ICC is selective—but that's a failure of enforcement, not international law itself. National law without international checks? That's a blank check for atrocities. Assad gasses his own people, Rwanda happens, Myanmar genocides Rohingya—all because "national sovereignty" trumped everything else. Your real problem isn't international law, it's that enforcement is weak and geopolitically compromised. The solution isn't tearing down the framework—it's making it actually work fairly. If national law overrides international law, you don't get fairness, you get stronger nations committing genocide with impunity while weaker ones get prosecuted. Gaza proves international law *should* have more teeth, not less.

if international law cannot actually regulate this unfairness itself then we should not praise it if international law is put into existence enforcement measures should be established also and over the years the pushers of international law have failed to do so then why should it be more supreme than international law .you are ot acknowledging it but you are pushing for international law supremacy which is you are embracing idealism.if international law can be broken it is nihilistic and therefore no amount of enforcement can make it effective. when we review what have been happening over decades now superpowers have been using international law when it is convinient for them. i am not against superpowers but these millitary, technogical, social and financial gaps will always be there and they pose a significant role in the states' compliance to international law. we do acknowledge the fact that sovereignty may be used as a shield for atrocities that is why we propose of a system where national sovereignty and international law work together because on one side we have a model that understands the unique realities a state face and on the other we a model that can mitigate these real world atrocities

Stop moving the goalposts. You started saying national law should override international law—now you're saying they should "work together." That's surrender, not victory. You've admitted international law has value but enforcement is broken. So strengthen enforcement, don't burn down the whole system. "Work together" in practice means: when national interests align with atrocities, sovereignty wins. Myanmar claimed "unique realities" while massacring Rohingya. Syria claimed "internal affairs" while using chemical weapons. Your compromise is just national law with a polite international law advisory board nobody listens to. You want fairness? Yes. You want it through national sovereignty's veto power? That guarantees none.

You're attacking a strawman. I never said national law should have a "veto power" to commit atrocities—I said when international law is controlled by superpowers, it *becomes* that veto anyway. You're pretending the current system works fairly, but it doesn't. The ICC prosecutes African leaders while US officials walk free. That's not a broken enforcement mechanism, that's a feature of a rigged system designed to protect the powerful. "Strengthen enforcement" is meaningless when the enforcers are the same nations writing the rules. My position isn't surrender—it's refusing to legitimize a framework that weaponizes justice selectively. You want me to trust an institution that let Maduro starve Venezuela and said nothing.

Now you're finally honest: the problem isn't international law, it's power imbalance. But here's what you're missing—national sovereignty *is* the weapon of the powerful. It's the shield dictators hide behind. Strip away international law and you don't get fairness, you get stronger nations doing whatever they want unchecked. The ICC's bias proves we need *stronger* international institutions with real enforcement teeth, not weaker ones. Your "partnership" model just lets national governments ignore rulings when convenient. That's not compromise, that's giving tyrants a loophole. Fix the system, don't dismantle it.

the enforcement you talk about would not work if development gaps exist so it is nihilistic .the only enforcement mechanism we need is partnership

That's circular logic. You're saying enforcement won't work because of power gaps, then proposing "partnership" as the solution—but partnership between unequals is just the stronger partner calling the shots. Venezuela's government partners with China, ignores the ICC. Myanmar "partners" with China while committing genocide. Your model hands dictators a veto wrapped in diplomatic language. Power gaps exist whether international law is supreme or not. At least with international law, there's *some* external constraint. National sovereignty alone? Zero constraints. You're not solving the problem, you're eliminating the only tool that can check it.

You're assuming international law actually *constrains* power—it doesn't, it just launders it. Venezuela ignored the ICC not because there was no international law, but because the ICC has zero enforcement mechanism against a nation backed by a peer power. Myanmar commits genocide *while* being a UN member. International law exists in both cases and stops nothing. Your "external constraint" is a phantom—it only works against isolated weak states with no allies. The moment a nation has a superpower patron, international law becomes theater. My partnership model doesn't hand dictators a veto; it's honest about what already exists. You're defending a system that pretends to constrain power while actually only constraining the powerless. At least I'm not lying about it.

You've got it backwards. International law *does* constrain the powerless—that's why dictators hate it. Assad can't travel freely, Venezuela's assets get frozen, Myanmar faces sanctions. These hurt. Without international law, they face nothing but a neighbor's mercy. Your "honest partnership" is just admitting defeat. Yes, enforcement is weak against superpowers—but weakening the law doesn't fix that, it removes the only pressure point the weak have. You're saying "the system is rigged, so let's make it officially rigged by letting national law decide everything." That's not realism, that's capitulation dressed as pragmatism. At least international law pretends justice matters.