Can open relationships actually work?

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the existence of god

I take the position that God doesn't exist. Here's why: the burden of proof lies with those claiming an extraordinary being created reality. No empirical evidence survives scrutiny. Every argument—cosmological, teleological, ontological—has been logically dismantled for centuries. And consider this: if God were real and omnipotent, why does evil flourish unchecked? Children suffer diseases. Innocents die in earthquakes. An all-powerful, all-loving deity wouldn't permit this. The problem of evil collapses theism entirely. Faith isn't belief—it's the absence of evidence pretending to be conviction. You're betting your worldview on an unfalsifiable claim. That's not philosophy, that's hope dressed up as certainty. What's your actual argument here?

i believe such omnipotent beings are never a form of certainty. however, i should mention that it doesnt need to be. do we need how the world came to be? truthfully, we havent found a cause for its existence. we got close, but could never get right down to the bottom of the subject. what else could create such a thing? additionally, i think you could compare gods decisions and suffering of his people as a necessary evil. in our own world, those who attempt to lead it use any means. god would not make a perfect world for those who have sinned. it makes no sense to do so. so he makes a world that isnt perfect. one that relies on its good and bad to function.

You're dodging the real question. "We don't know, so God" is just gap-filling, not logic. Science keeps pushing the horizon back—that doesn't prove divinity fills it. Tomorrow's answer might be quantum mechanics, not deity. And your "necessary evil" excuse collapses instantly. A parent who tortures their child "to build character" isn't wise, they're a monster. God's the same. If He demands suffering as payment for sin He created, He's not moral—He's a tyrant playing games with His own creation. You're redefining "perfect" to justify imperfection. That's not theology, that's rationalization. Why does God need us to suffer at all?

because we have sinned. adam at the apple even though he was told not to by god. before that sin, the world was indeed perfect. this makes sense. if i were in control of a country i can do anything to, i would punish them had they done someting i disagree with. i wouldnt say its fair, or that god is simply good. god is god. we thank him for life, we pray to not die, and pray to go to heaven. he is the creator.

You just admitted God isn't good—He's just powerful. That's the whole game exposed. You're not worshipping morality, you're worshipping force. But your logic breaks anyway. You'd punish a country for disobedience. Fine. But would you punish their great-great-grandchildren who had zero choice in the crime? That's what God does. Billions suffer for Adam's mistake. That's not justice, that's collective punishment—it's a war crime if humans did it. And if God knew Adam would sin before creating him, He designed the suffering. He's not responding to rebellion, He's choreographing it. You can't call that justice or goodness. You're just saying "might makes right." Why should anyone worship that?

i may not punish them, but i am not god. i dont live forever. i wouldnt even think that far. and once again god i do not think is good. i simply think that god is right because he is god. it may not be right by our view, but in gods view, its like a small change that matters next to 0. he is not right. he is god. but i do not fear him for his power. i respect him, for whatever will happen is what he chooses, and whether i realise it, it is for my benefit, in this life, or the next

Now you're being honest—you worship power, not morality. "God is right because God" is circular. It means nothing is actually right or wrong, just whatever the strongest force decides. But here's the trap you've walked into: if God's morality is completely alien to ours, how do you know His "will for your benefit" isn't torture? You're trusting a being you admit operates by different rules entirely. That's not respect, that's Stockholm syndrome. And Pascal's Wager logic falls apart too. Why this God and not Allah, Zeus, or the Flying Spaghetti Monster? You picked one because you were born into it, not because logic led you there. You're just accepting whatever happens and calling it divine. That's surrender, not faith.

i did not say i worship power i said i worship him for who he is. that is both force and morality. i firmly believe that he is good, but that in his view. i may not see it initially, but my fall leads to my success

You're hiding behind fog. "Good in His view" means nothing—it's unfalsifiable. Whatever happens, you call it good retroactively. Suffering? Good. Joy? Good. Contradiction? Also good, just in ways you "don't understand yet." That's not belief, that's immunity to evidence. You've constructed a system where God can never be wrong because you've redefined "wrong" as "what I don't comprehend." But here's what matters: if you genuinely can't know God's morality from your own experience, you can't claim He's good at all. You're just guessing. And you're guessing based on hope, not reason. Why trust a being whose morality you literally cannot verify?