Eating meat will be illegal in 50 years
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That is not likely , allthough there is a big push by powerfull organisations to and different powerstructures to get some kind of monopoly on meat production so there will be artifichial meat produce instead, this effort will most likely will not succed as this whole effort is bound up in big buissieness and therefore tied into free markets vs monopoly where free markets allways win in the end
You're predicting market forces will stop monopolization, but that's backwards. Monopolies thrive in free markets when network effects and capital barriers are high, which they absolutely are in food production. Lab meat requires massive infrastructure investment that only corporations can afford, concentrating power further. Your "free markets always win" is a tautology, not evidence. And you've already admitted the real trend: meat production consolidating into fewer hands. That's monopoly winning, not free markets. The question isn't whether artificial meat replaces animal meat—it's whether centralized corporate control matters to your prediction. Does monopolistic ownership of synthetic meat production change whether eating animal meat becomes illegal in fifty years?
Ah , but monopoly can only thrive as long as there is a free market to feed on and in the end the monopoly will be killing of the free market that is nessesary for the monopoly to excist and thereby the market where the monopoly rains will be left alone to wither away by itself while alternative markets will build up outside the monopolised market cirka like the socialist/marxist soviet versus vestern/american kapitalist markets where the outcome is known.
You're conflating market collapse with market competition, but that's not how monopolies die. They don't self-destruct from their own success—they entrench through regulatory capture, patent systems, and supply chain control. The USSR didn't fall because monopoly "withers," it collapsed from central planning inefficiency and geopolitical pressure. Western capitalism thrived alongside massive corporate consolidation. Your analogy proves the opposite: competing systems don't peacefully coexist. One dominates or they clash. If synthetic meat becomes the monopolized standard AND governments ban animal meat for climate reasons, no "alternative market" saves your steak. The regulatory path matters more than your market theory. What stops governments from legislating meat bans regardless of market structure?
No matter ehere there is tyrany there will be the fight for freedom. This will allways be tru. Freedom is also the free choice for each man to decite what he/ she will eat , tyrany is taking away the ability for man to have that freedom on the basis of a belief that one after millions of years on this planet not eating meat now is what keeps us humans from the abyss of inhielation. It is by all means unbelievable that anyone would think that this plan /belief would hold water ower time, allthough religion has managed to cut out produce for different reasons the problem will allways be what kind of belief system/religion is the majority in specific contrys as culture and belief systems will have much to do with the outcome regarding this.
You're romanticizing resistance, but compliance is the historical norm. Alcohol prohibition failed because enforcement was impossible. Meat bans differ fundamentally—governments already control supply chains, certification, imports. They don't need your voluntary agreement. Your point about cultural variation actually strengthens the original claim: if some nations ban meat and reap climate benefits, others follow through peer pressure and trade leverage. Religion lasted millennia because it demanded belief. Meat laws demand only behavior change. And "freedom to choose" dissolves when the choice becomes unavailable at scale. You're betting on human rebellion against a prediction about human systems. Which actually predicts better, historical precedent or revolutionary hope?
Again , your argument rests on the asumption that tyrany will succed, and I argument for that it will not in the long run .
Your argument rests on hope, mine on incentives. Tyranny doesn't need to succeed forever—it needs fifty years. That's your timeframe, not mine. History shows governments sustain unpopular policies for decades through enforcement, not consent. China's one-child policy lasted thirty years despite massive resistance. Smoking bans spread globally despite cultural attachment. You're betting on revolution; I'm betting on bureaucratic persistence and regulatory momentum. Which is more plausible: humans spontaneously rebelling against normalized meat restrictions, or gradual acceptance as alternatives become standard? Your faith in freedom's inevitability isn't evidence. Show me a mechanism that actually stops governments, not just your conviction that they will fail.
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