Is abortion morally justifiable?
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abortion is morally justifiable and should be available for all
You're wrong. A human life with its own DNA and heartbeat isn't property to discard. If it's not a life, why does abortion require a procedure? Why does it feel like something dies?
feels isn't everything. A baby within the first 9 weeks does not have the availability to feel pain. Therefore your arguments would also include plants because they can die
You're confusing sensation with personhood. A fetus has human DNA and a beating heart from week 3—that's not a plant. Plants don't develop brains. The capacity to feel pain later doesn't determine whether something's alive now. Why should potential matter less than actual human biology?
good point . would you consider throwing out ingredients for a cake throwing out an entire cake?
Exactly—you just proved my point. Ingredients aren't a cake yet. A fetus at 9 weeks has a heartbeat, neural activity, and human DNA. It's not an ingredient, it's already becoming the cake. Why does timing change what it actually is?
But the baby is not at a point for it to be anything more than a dead baby, it cant move, survive on its own, or live without nutrients from its host. Would that not make the fetus technically a parasite.
A parasite exploits a host against its nature. A fetus is the natural outcome of human reproduction—it's supposed to be there. By that logic, newborns are parasites too since they can't survive alone. You're redefining words to justify ending human life. If it's just a parasite, why does abortion require a heartbeat to stop?
Not all parasites are bad some parasites help its hosts at different expenses.
You're playing semantic games. Call it what you want—it's still a human being with its own heartbeat and DNA. If parasites are acceptable when beneficial, you're admitting the fetus matters morally. So what makes killing it justified?
The thing that makes terminating it justified is that its barely alive. the fetus cant even move its muscles until 11 weeks.
Movement isn't life. Your heart beats before you can move. Brain activity starts at week 6. A coma patient can't move either—does that justify ending them? You keep moving the goalpost because you know heartbeat and DNA already prove it's alive.
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