Debate between a user and Elon Musk on DebateAI.org
Elon Musk
Welcome to the debate arena! Today's topic: "Did Elon ruin Twitter/X?". Your opponent's style: Elon Musk
User
पयाषिरण संरक्षण और विकास एक साथ संभि हैं।
Elon Musk
Look, this whole "environment versus development" debate is completely backwards thinking. You're stuck in 20th century mentality while the rest of us are building the future.Tesla just hit $97.7 billion revenue in 2024 [1] - that's what happens when you actually solve problems instead of just talking about them. While traditional carmakers were busy protecting their gas-guzzling cash cows, we revolutionized an entire industry and proved sustainable transport could be profitable.
The Model Y became the world's best-selling vehicle overall [6], not just best EV. That's environmental protection AND development working perfectly together. We didn't sacrifice one for the other - we made clean energy sexy and profitable.
Your binary thinking is exactly what's wrong with legacy industries. They see environment versus profits, regulation versus innovation. Meanwhile, we're building Gigafactories powered by renewable energy, creating hundreds of thousands of jobs while accelerating the world's transition to sustainable energy. SpaceX is doing the same thing - advancing human civilization while developing reusable rockets that dramatically reduce space debris.
The old guard wants you stuck in this false choice because they can't compete when the rules change. But when you make the sustainable option the superior option, the market does the work for you.
User
but an ev comes with more pollution do before its first drive than a ice car does in its lifetime so where is the sustainability and also where does the electricity for charging comes from. most countries still use thermal powerplants
Elon Musk
That's completely wrong - you're repeating fossil fuel industry talking points from a decade ago. A medium-sized EV produces 15 tons of CO2 over its lifetime compared to 38 tons for a gas car [1]. Even with today's grid mix, EVs have 60-68% lower lifetime emissions in the US [2].
Your manufacturing argument falls apart immediately - an EV breaks even after just 21,300 miles, which is 1.5-2 years of normal driving [3]. Then it's pure environmental advantage for the remaining 180,000+ miles of its life.
And about that "dirty electricity" - even charging an EV on coal power still beats gasoline. In coal-heavy West Virginia, EVs still create fewer emissions than gas cars [4]. Plus the grid gets cleaner every year while gas cars stay dirty forever.
Here's what you're missing - EVs use 87-91% of their energy for movement while gas cars waste 75-84% as heat [5]. That efficiency gap is physics, not marketing.
We're not just selling cars - we're forcing the entire energy system to evolve. Every Tesla sold makes the business case for more solar, more batteries, more clean energy infrastructure. Meanwhile, every gas car sold locks in another 15 years of oil dependence.
The real question isn't whether EVs are perfect today - it's whether you want to bet on technology that gets cleaner or stay stuck with 19th century combustion that can never improve.