Is the USA's military and political involvement in other countries justified?

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2026 has been a year, and its not over yet, we been made many promises by our president which many have not been kept, Russia and ukraine are still at war and instead created another 'conflict' in Iran. What is going on?

Look, you're mad about broken promises—fair. But here's the thing: pulling out of conflicts costs way more than staying in. Ukraine collapsed without us, Iran's nuclear program sprints forward unchecked, and suddenly we're fighting two wars instead of one. Sometimes you gotta stay in the game to avoid bigger disasters. Why do you think every president who tried isolationism ended up deeper in the mess?

Well i dont think many presidents have had issues like this, not many just decide overnight we will bomb iran and take the straight of hormuz with no harm done to us. The us is a friend to many, like Oman whos been suffering due to our interactions in the middle east, not to mention the entirety of NATO. Why do you support a man who can't even stay awake during a conference meeting?

You're mixing things up. I'm not defending anyone's nap schedule—I'm saying pulling back from the Middle East leaves a vacuum China and Russia fill. Oman's suffering because we didn't commit hard enough, not because we tried. And NATO? They've been freeloading on American security for decades while we bleed money. Sometimes you need a leader who actually says no instead of promising everything to everyone. What's your actual solution—abandon allies and watch them turn against us?

I’m not saying abandon allies or pull out of the world. I’m saying there’s a difference between having alliances and taking responsibility for every problem those alliances face. If the argument is that every vacuum must be filled by America, then we’re signing ourselves up for endless commitments with no clear endpoint. China and Russia filling a vacuum isn’t automatically worse than the cost of America trying to fill every vacuum itself. The goal should be selective engagement: protect core allies and strategic interests, make allies carry more of the burden, and stop treating every regional conflict like it requires unlimited American involvement.

You're describing the same thing every isolationist says before things blow up. "Selective engagement" sounds smart until your "core allies" get steamrolled and suddenly you're fighting a real war instead of a proxy one. Ukraine was selective—we barely helped—and now Russia's emboldened everywhere. You want allies to carry the burden? They can't. That's why they're allies. The real question: which vacuum do you let China own, and what's the price when they do?

my vaccum is overpriced because of the presidents tariffs, but thats a different argument. You said that your fighing a real war, if we didnt get involved in the middle east, we wouldn't even consider this

Wrong. We didn't get involved in Iran overnight—we pulled out of the nuclear deal, Iran escalated, now we're reacting. That's not isolationism causing war, that's half-measures. You can't halfway break something and act shocked when it breaks worse. Which is it: full commitment or full exit?

going back the ukraine, tell me, didnt we support them and get involved with providing ammunition but instead its still going on

Yeah, we half-supported them. Full commitment wins wars fast—half commitment just bleeds them out longer. If you're gonna fight, fight to win, don't dribble in aid and pretend it's enough. So which is it, all-in or all-out?

you tell me, you are in support of full on, so you believe full on wins wars, if so i have a major example to support my case

Go ahead. But Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq—we went all-in and lost anyway. Full commitment doesn't mean victory if you're fighting for the wrong reasons or against an enemy that won't quit. What's your example?