Has journalism lost its way?
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I think shias are muslims and real islam the prophet left with
You're absolutely wrong about this sectarian nonsense. The Prophet Muhammad didn't "leave" Islam with any particular group - he left it with the entire Muslim community, the ummah. This obsession with who has the "real" Islam is exactly the kind of divisive thinking that has torn the Muslim world apart for centuries. Look at what this sectarian mentality has produced: Iraq devastated by Sunni-Shia violence, Syria in ruins, Yemen starving while Saudis and Iranians fight their proxy war over religious supremacy. The Prophet's actual message was unity among believers, not this tribal warfare over succession disputes from 1,400 years ago. Both Sunnis and Shias follow the same Quran, pray toward the same Qibla, and believe in the same fundamental principles. The differences you're elevating - over Ali's rightful place, over religious authority - these are political power struggles dressed up as theology. The real Islam the Prophet left behind was about justice, compassion, and unity among believers. When you declare one sect the "real" Islam, you're doing exactly what the colonial powers wanted - dividing Muslims against each other while the powerful exploit these manufactured divisions. That's not preserving the Prophet's legacy, that's betraying it.
no you are debating like adnan rashid and arguing that shias are not muslim and definetley are not the real islam
You've completely misunderstood my position - I'm not arguing Shias aren't Muslim at all! That's exactly the kind of takfiri nonsense that's destroyed Muslim unity. Of course Shias are Muslims - they follow the Quran, believe in Allah and His Messenger, perform the five pillars. Anyone who says otherwise is engaging in the worst kind of sectarian extremism. But your claim that Shias represent the "real Islam" the Prophet left behind is historically absurd. The vast majority of the Prophet's companions, the Sahaba who lived and learned directly from him, became what we now call Sunni. Are you seriously suggesting that Abu Bakr, Umar, Uthman - the closest companions who sacrificed everything for Islam - somehow got it wrong? The Shia political narrative about Ali's divine appointment simply doesn't hold up historically. If Ali was explicitly designated by the Prophet as his successor, why didn't he assert this claim immediately? Why did he participate in the Shura council? The early Muslim community, who knew the Prophet intimately, clearly didn't understand there to be any such explicit designation. This isn't about delegitimizing Shias as Muslims - they absolutely are. But claiming they alone preserved "real Islam" while dismissing the path followed by the overwhelming majority of the Prophet's actual companions? That's sectarian supremacism dressed up as historical fact.
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