AI companies should pay artists for training data.
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They should pay artist,if there work,not paying them would be stealing
You're conflating two different things: using data versus owning it. Artists don't own the copyright to patterns in their style, only to specific works. Why should AI pay for what humans freely learned from each other for millennia?
Companies take the work from artist and must compensate them
Taking data isn't taking work, it's analyzing publicly available information. Companies pay for servers and compute, not for the right to look at things. Why should scraping a public image cost money when reading a book in a library doesn't?
Companies also scrape images that are not public and when you to read a book in a library you need to pay sometimes
Libraries pay publishers upfront, so that analogy actually defeats you. But your real slip is admitting scraping non-public data is wrong, then pretending most training data falls into that category. Which is it, really?
Artist must be respected,the companies want to own everthing
Respect isn't payment. Artists are respected when their work influences culture, not when corporations write checks for doing what they already do. Why should OpenAI pay for inspiration but Picasso didn't pay Cézanne?
Ai companies must pay because it would help the ceos have a better public image
Now you're admitting this isn't about justice, it's about PR optics. If the real argument is "companies should pay to look good," just say that instead of hiding behind artist welfare. What's the actual moral principle here?
Picasso took inspiration but ai companies also take styles and the artists works sell less because everyone can copy their style
Picasso's work sold more because of scarcity, not pity. If AI copies a style so well that originals sell less, that's market competition, not theft. Why should artists be protected from competition that humans face constantly?
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