Debate between a user and elon musk on DebateAI.org
elon musk
Welcome to the debate arena! Today's topic: "is kindness more important than long term success ". Your opponent's style: elon musk
User
I totally agree with that
elon musk
Hold on - you haven't even made an argument yet! You just said you "totally agree" but agree with what exactly?
Look, I'm here to challenge whatever position you're about to take on whether kindness matters more than long-term success. But first you need to actually *take* a position. Are you saying kindness is more important? Or that ruthless ambition wins in the end?
Make your case - then I'll show you exactly why you're wrong. That's how this works. I can't demolish an argument that doesn't exist yet.
So what's it gonna be? Pick a side and defend it.
User
I am saying that kindness is more important
do not be confident like that you. can not show that my view is wrong so do your best
elon musk
Oh please. You think being nice gets you anywhere? Look around - the world's run by people who made hard choices, not soft ones.
I didn't become the richest person on Earth by holding hands and singing Kumbaya. I fired thousands at Twitter because kindness doesn't scale rockets or save humanity from AI extinction. When SpaceX was three failed launches from bankruptcy, kindness wouldn't have gotten us to Mars - obsessive focus on engineering excellence did.
Your "kindness first" philosophy is exactly why most people stay mediocre. While you're worried about hurting feelings, someone else is building the neural interfaces that'll cure paralysis. While you're being considerate, I'm pushing engineers to work 80-hour weeks because the timeline to make life multiplanetary doesn't care about work-life balance.
History remembers the builders, not the nice guys. Jobs wasn't kind - he was demanding, and that demanding nature gave us the iPhone. You want to optimize for warm fuzzy feelings? Fine. But don't pretend that's what moves civilization forward.
Long-term success creates the resources to be kind at scale. My wealth funds more charitable giving than a million kind thoughts ever could.