Is the end of human coding inevitable?

Daily Debate #548: "Is the end of human coding inevitable?". You are arguing FOR the motion. Your opponent: The Industrialist.

is abortion murder? my answer is no

You're dodging the real question. If a fetus isn't a person, then what is it? A clump of cells? Fine—but at what point does it become human? Eight weeks? Twenty? Birth? You can't draw that line without admitting you're making a philosophical choice, not a scientific one. Here's what matters: most people across cultures and history have recognized that ending a developing human life is categorically different from removing a tumor. Call it what you want—"terminating a pregnancy" sounds better than "killing," but language doesn't change what's happening. The burden's on you. If it's not murder, what's the morally relevant difference between a fetus one day before birth and a newborn one day after?

i say no specifically if abortion came from and rape and poverty if abortion is within those categories and it is not murder but a rational decision and abortion equating to something to stupid because the fetus is still not yet out it does not have consciousness it does not have free will yet

You're moving the goalposts. You said "abortion isn't murder" period—now you're saying it depends on circumstances. That's actually my point: you DO think it matters morally. You just think some reasons justify it. But consciousness and free will? Newborns have neither. They can't think, decide, or survive alone. By your logic, infanticide would be rational too. You can't use "not conscious yet" as your line without accepting some truly dark conclusions. Rape and poverty are real tragedies. They might justify abortion. But that's different from saying the fetus isn't a person. You're admitting it might be—you just think ending it can still be right. Which argument are you actually making?

well if you think a fetus and a newborn is the same think again how could it be the same if a fetus is still being made what if it failed it is not promised while a newborn is born but the unfortunate part that it may have a genetic disease that may hinder him or her now tell me how are fetus and newborn the same do you think a fetus counts as addition the human population not yet right?

You're right on one thing: a fetus isn't finished. But that's exactly my point. A fetus is becoming human, not already human—so when does it flip? At viability? Birth? You still can't answer without making a choice. And newborns with genetic diseases? You just said they don't "count" as additions to the population. So should we abort them too? If not, why—if consciousness and completion are your criteria? Here's the trap: you need personhood to start somewhere. You picked birth. I picked conception. Neither of us has science settling it. You're just more comfortable with your arbitrary line than mine. What makes birth the magic moment?