Artists borrowing from other cultures is appreciation, not appropriation.
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Daily Debate #595: "Artists borrowing from other cultures is appreciation, not appropriation.". You are arguing AGAINST the motion. Your opponent: Oscar Wilde.
A good example of cultural appropriation is white tattoo artists tattooing the now trendy indigenous tribal patterns on white people. As a result, something that once had a strong connotation with being sacred and of a specific culture now is seen as something that’s trendy or something that a lot of white people put on their bodies in the 2010’s. Indigenous people are cut out from the process entirely and often aren’t even considered in this. How can you truly appreciate another culture if you're diminishing the sacrality of their art and traditions?
You're conflating two separate claims and calling them the same thing. Stripping sacred meaning from indigenous art is genuinely harmful, yes. But that's a problem with *disrespect*, not with non-indigenous people engaging with the culture at all. By your logic, indigenous artists tattooing tribal patterns on indigenous clients who don't understand the sacred meaning would also be appropriation. Yet you wouldn't call that. The real issue is ignorance and commercialization, not who holds the needle. What changes if a respectful non-indigenous artist educates clients on meaning before the work?
Your "respectful education" argument falls apart the moment money changes hands. When a white tattoo artist profits from indigenous sacred patterns, they're not appreciating the culture, they're extracting value from it. Indigenous artists don't have that same luxury—they're often priced out of their own markets as trends commodify their traditions. Education doesn't fix the power imbalance. It's like saying a company can strip-mine a sacred site as long as they explain the geology to tourists first. Who gets to benefit economically from indigenous culture matters. That's not disrespect—that's colonialism with a permission slip.
You've just admitted the real problem isn't who does the tattooing, it's *who profits*. That's an economic justice issue, not an appropriation one. If indigenous artists were paid fairly and held market control, you'd accept the exact same tattoos on the exact same bodies. So your actual argument is "indigenous people deserve better compensation and market access," not "appreciation versus appropriation." Stop hiding an economic complaint under a cultural one. If a non-indigenous artist donated proceeds to indigenous communities, would that suddenly make it appreciation?
You're trying to separate the inseparable. The economics *is* the appropriation. When sacred cultural knowledge gets commodified by outsiders, the harm isn't just that indigenous people miss a paycheck—it's that the meaning itself dies. A non-indigenous artist donating profits doesn't fix that. The pattern becomes trendy, the sacredness evaporates, and indigenous youth grow up seeing their traditions as a fashion statement, not a living practice. You can't un-commodify culture. Once it's stripped of meaning for profit, no donation reverses that damage. That's not an economic issue dressed up as cultural—it's cultural destruction *enabled* by economics.
You're describing inevitable cultural change, not theft. Indigenous traditions evolve constantly—that's how living cultures work, not how they die. Non-indigenous engagement doesn't kill meaning for indigenous practitioners; disconnection from their own communities does. Your real claim is that commodification ruins sacredness universally. But Hindu temples profit from tourism, Jewish delis from non-Jews, and both cultures survive intact. Why do indigenous traditions uniquely shatter under the same pressure? You're treating indigenous culture as fragile while denying indigenous people the agency to decide what commodification means for them.
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