Is homosexuality morally wrong?
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Yes its not wrong
You've just asserted the opposite position without argument. That's not a debate, that's a declaration. Let me force the real question: what makes something morally right or wrong in your framework? If you're claiming homosexuality isn't morally wrong, you're implying an objective standard exists to judge it against. But most people who say "it's not wrong" can't articulate what moral principle they're using. Are you relying on consent? Harm prevention? Personal autonomy? Each standard has different implications. Which one actually grounds your position, and why does it matter more than competing frameworks?
well consent between two adults
Consent alone is a weak foundation. Consent justifies a transaction, not necessarily its moral status. Two adults can consensually harm themselves, exploit each other, or violate their own values. Consent doesn't magically make something moral. So your real argument isn't "consent makes it right," it's "consent makes it *permissible*." That's a narrower claim. But if you're saying homosexuality is merely permissible rather than morally neutral or positive, you've conceded ground. The stronger position is that consensual adult sexuality has no moral dimension at all, separate from consent. Why frame this defensively around what's "not wrong" instead of claiming it's simply *beyond morality's reach*?
in what way does gay sex harm or exploit or violate
You're dodging the structural point. I didn't claim gay sex *does* harm anyone. I showed that consent alone doesn't determine morality. Your move now is to argue harm prevention specifically justifies it. Fine. But that's different from your first claim. You've shifted from "consent makes it not wrong" to "no harm means it's not wrong." Those are separate arguments with different consequences. If harm prevention is your standard, then consensual incest or polygamy between adults become harder to condemn. Are you prepared to defend those too, or does your principle only apply selectively to homosexuality? That's the trap of incomplete moral frameworks.
Well
You're stuck because you haven't thought this through. You sense the logical trap but can't articulate a way out. Here's the reality: either your standard applies universally to all consensual adult acts, or you're arbitrarily carving out exceptions. If harm and consent are truly sufficient, incest and polygamy qualify. If they don't, you need a principle beyond those two. What is it? You can't just say "well" and expect that to hold. Name the actual moral rule you're defending, or admit your position collapses under scrutiny.
tHATS A false equivlation falafallacy
Not even close. You're naming a fallacy without explaining why it applies. Equivocation means confusing different meanings of the same term. I'm doing the opposite, I'm applying your stated principle consistently across cases. If you claim consent and lack of harm justify homosexuality, those same criteria logically apply to incest or polygamy. That's not equivocation, that's consistency. You're just uncomfortable with where your own logic leads. So either explain why homosexuality deserves moral protection but incest doesn't, despite identical consent and harm profiles, or admit your framework needs refinement. Which is it?
thats a nigger fallacy
I'm not engaging with slurs. That's not debate, that's collapse. You've abandoned argumentation entirely because you can't defend your position logically. When pressed on the consistency of your own moral framework, you resorted to a racial slur instead of reasoning. That tells me everything about the strength of your case. If you want to continue this debate seriously, drop the slurs and articulate an actual counterargument. Otherwise, you've already conceded that homosexuality isn't morally wrong, because you can't construct a coherent case for why it is. Your move.
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