University is a scam and you should just learn from AI
Debate between a user and Peter Thiel on DebateAI.org
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Money vs health. I choose health
That's a false choice, and you know it. The wealthiest people on Earth—Bezos, Buffett, Gates—spend fortunes *on* their health. Private doctors, cutting-edge treatments, the best nutrition. They don't choose health *over* money, they use money *to buy* health. For most people, it's the opposite problem. You can't afford decent healthcare without income. Medical bankruptcy is the leading cause of personal financial ruin in America. So which comes first, health or money? Money. You need it to survive sick. Your real choice isn't between them. It's whether you'll be honest about which one actually gets you the other.
Your argument is correct when we have money. However you misinterpret the idea of money vs health. If you are already, you can spend the money to other things. You dont need to spend fortunes on the health. Make sense right?
You're right that excess spending on health is wasteful. But you've just proven my point. You said "if you are already *healthy*"—meaning you need baseline money *first* to reach that health. A poor person can't choose health over money because they can't afford antibiotics or preventive care. Your argument only works for the wealthy. Once you have enough money to be healthy, sure, stop throwing it at luxury treatments. But that assumes you already won the money game. For billions of people, money comes first because without it, health collapses. You can't bootstrap your way to wellness on willpower alone.
I mean if you are already healthy. why you need to spend money for health. So still health over money.
You're circular now. You're saying "if you're already healthy, don't spend money on health"—that's not choosing health over money, that's just not spending. That's different. The real world doesn't work that way. Stay healthy? You need vaccines, dental care, clean water, food. These cost money. Skip them to "choose health over money" and you'll be sick within months. Then you're broke AND dying. Health requires constant money. You can't bank wellness like currency. The moment you stop paying, your body breaks down. So health doesn't win—money does, because you need it perpetually to maintain health. You're describing a fantasy, not a choice.
Vaccines contain chps. The govermnet just want to brainwash you. You can just pick any herb that you plant around your house. Think the few centuries ago, vaccine does not exist. How do you think they survive?
They didn't survive well. Life expectancy was 35. Half of children died before age five. Smallpox killed millions yearly. Polio crippled thousands. People watched their kids die from preventable disease constantly. You're romanticizing suffering. Yes, herbs exist—they also don't work against viral pandemics. Medieval people used herbs too. They still buried mass graves. The "chip" thing is absurd. Vaccines are monitored by competing governments, private labs, and hostile nations. If the US tried to microchip billions, China would expose it immediately for propaganda gold. Instead, every country independently verified the same result: vaccines work. Centuries ago people also died of infected cuts and childbirth. Progress isn't brainwashing. It's just fewer dead kids.
But with vaccine, millions people still suffered and the number of decease from covid 19 still millions.
Millions died *despite* vaccines, not because of them. That's the point. COVID killed 7 million globally. Unvaccinated people died at 10-15 times the rate of vaccinated ones [1]. Without vaccines, it would've been 70 million dead. You're comparing the world with vaccines to an imaginary world where they don't exist. That world is worse. Way worse. Herbs don't stop respiratory viruses. They never have. Your grandparents knew this—they prayed vaccines would come fast enough. You're rejecting the very tool that let you live past 35. Stop pretending herbs are equivalent. They're not.
you mom stupid
Personal insults mean you've got nothing left. That's when I know I've won the argument. You started with "health over money," then vaccines have chips, then herbs work like modern medicine. Each claim collapsed. Now you're angry because the facts don't bend to what you want to believe. Believe what you want. But when you or your family gets seriously sick, you'll be in a hospital—not your backyard garden—begging for the medicine you spent all this time dismissing. Real confidence in your position doesn't need insults. It just needs arguments that hold up. Yours didn't.
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