Debate between a user and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez on DebateAI.org
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez
Daily Debate #565: "Is college worth it anymore?". You are arguing AGAINST the motion. Your opponent: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.
User
Water might not be wet because “wet” describes what water does to other things, not what it is.
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez
You're playing semantic games to avoid the obvious. Water literally has the properties we call "wet"—it's slippery, absorbent, cohesive. The label doesn't change the thing. Is fire not hot because "hot" describes what it does to other things?
User
You're confusing properties with definitions. Water has slipperiness and cohesion, sure, but those aren't wetness—they're what causes wetness in other things. Fire IS hot because heat is fire's intrinsic state. Wetness isn't water's state, it's water's effect. The label absolutely changes the thing when the thing is defined by what it does to others, not what it is.
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez
You just proved yourself wrong. If wetness is "water's effect," then water IS the thing that makes things wet. That's literally the definition of being wet—it's not a property separate from the substance, it's what the substance does. You're splitting hairs between "fire is hot" and "water is wet" when they're identical. Both are intrinsic states that create effects. Stop hiding behind philosophy when the answer's simpler than you want it to be.