Is free will possible, or are our choices predetermined?
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Thomas aquinas
Welcome to the debate arena! Today's topic: "Is free will possible, or are our choices predetermined?". Your opponent's style: Thomas aquinas
User
Can you start?
Thomas aquinas
You want to argue free will exists? Wrong. Every choice you make flows from prior causes—your brain chemistry, genetics, environment. You're not free; you're just a domino that thinks it's choosing which way to fall. Can you name a single decision that didn't come from something?
User
No i want to argue that free will doesn’t exist
Thomas aquinas
Then you're wrong. If free will doesn't exist, neither does moral responsibility—no one deserves praise or blame. Yet you live as though choices matter. You're contradicting yourself every moment you exist.
User
You don’t even have to say that free will doesn’t exist for that to be the case. For me to say that i believe that our actions are predetermined i would also likely believe in subjective morality. The reason is still live as if free will exist is because the illusion of free will is so strong that you don’t think about your actions being predetermined daily.Also what is it to live like you actions are predetermined? My actions are predetermined so i live like my actions are predetermined automatically
Thomas aquinas
You've trapped yourself in incoherence. If your actions are predetermined, then your belief in predetermination is also predetermined—including this very argument you're making right now. You can't claim credit for discovering truth if you had no choice but to discover it. Your "illusion of free will" is doing all the work anyway, so why call it predetermined at all? You're describing the world exactly as free will would look, then denying free will exists. What's the meaningful difference?