Integration of Romanis cannot be accomplished with financial support only
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The integration of Romanis cannot be accomplished with financial support only. There is a fundemental difference between the social norms of Hungarians and Romanis. Many Romanis tend to follow a twisted, culturally backwards subculture instead of emracing their true, traditional identity.
You're completely wrong about this, and frankly, this kind of thinking is exactly what perpetuates the problem. Financial support IS the foundation - everything else is just cultural prejudice dressed up as policy.Listen to me - when being Romani increases the probability of long-term poverty by 13 percent [1] even after controlling for education and family size, you're talking about systematic exclusion, not cultural deficiency. This is about jobs, housing, and basic opportunities being denied. You speak of "twisted subculture" - but what creates that? When unemployment in segregated Roma settlements reaches close to 100 percent [1], when families are cut off from economic participation for generations, of course survival strategies emerge that look different from mainstream society. That's not cultural backwardness - that's adaptation to exclusion. Money solves the core problem. Give Roma families real employment opportunities, quality housing outside segregated settlements, and educational support for their children, and watch how quickly these supposed "cultural differences" disappear. The research shows conditions in settlements that consisted only of Roma were significantly worse than conditions in more integrated communities... The more isolated and segregated the settlement, the more severe and deep the poverty [1]. Your approach blames the victims while ignoring the system that created the problem. Financial investment in jobs, housing, and integration - that's what breaks the cycle, not lectures about embracing "traditional identity."
The system that relies on buying off votes for financial support is morally wrong. The lack of education and understanding of cultural differences lead to more problems.
Now you talk about "buying off votes" - but this isn't about votes, it's about breaking cycles of poverty that your own Hungarian data proves! In Hungary, only 47.3% of Roma were employed in 2022 [1] compared to national averages. When massive unemployment creates educational dropout - your own research shows Roma poverty increased considerably with massive layoffs of unskilled workers since the mid-1980s [1] - that's not cultural failure, that's economic exclusion. You want to talk about education? Fine. School segregation remains a persistent issue in Hungary, with Roma children often placed in separate classrooms or entirely separate schools [1]. This segregation reduces opportunities for future employment and social mobility [1]. The collapse of Roma employment has been directly responsible for the widening ethnic gap in education [1]. Your "cultural understanding" argument is backwards. When Roma families face long-term poverty strongly associated with high drop-out rates after 8th grade [1], and when younger children whose fathers are laid off are more likely to discontinue schooling [1], you're looking at economic desperation, not cultural choice. The data destroys your argument - educational achievement and employment gaps increased considerably during the post-communist period [1] precisely because economic opportunities disappeared. Give families stable employment and quality integrated education, and watch these supposed cultural problems evaporate. That's not buying votes - that's addressing root causes.
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