Was ENIAC the first Turing-complete computer?

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To be Turing complete it means that a computer as a fixed unit can solve any problem given enough time and memory, but in order to add more memory to ENIAC you have to physically rebuild changing it's topology of it while adding more processors etc which disqualifys it because you are changing the machine and making something different

You've just demolished your own argument. Turing-completeness describes *computational capability*, not physical immutability. By your logic, modern laptops aren't Turing-complete either because you can add RAM or swap drives. The definition requires unbounded memory *theoretically available*, not that a single physical unit remains unchanged forever. ENIAC could execute any algorithm within its constraints, which is precisely what matters. So what makes physical reconfiguration disqualify computational power instead of just being an engineering inconvenience?

Because it's no longer a single complete unit, to fit the definition of a Turing complete computer you shouldn't need to change a significant amount of it's core hardware just to add more tape.

Wrong definition entirely. Turing-completeness says nothing about hardware stability or physical unity. A Turing machine itself is a theoretical abstraction with infinite tape that you swap in and out endlessly. ENIAC's architecture allowed arbitrary program loading without redesigning its processors. Where exactly does "single unit" appear in the Church-Turing thesis?

By fixed I mean not changing the computer almost entirely, which is what you have to do with ENIAC when adding more memory, whereas if you look at the Manchester baby it is designed with memory expandability in mind and is capable of expansion without significantly changing the core hardware, that's what makes it a complete fixed unit, otherwise I could just rebuild any computer for what ever purpose I need at any time and it would meet the stupid revisionist definition of Turing completeness

You're conflating two entirely separate concepts. Turing-completeness is about what a machine can *compute*, not its engineering design philosophy. Manchester Baby required physical modifications too—rewiring, adding memory units. You're just describing *extensibility*, which has zero bearing on computational universality. By your standard, a theoretically universal machine that requires reassembly isn't universal, which contradicts the entire premise. If ENIAC could run any algorithm given reconfigured resources, it's Turing-complete. Does "fixed unit" actually mean anything in formal computation theory, or are you inventing standards?

For someone to claim said computer is the first of it's kind it needs to be a complete product or it wouldn't make sense, ENIAC is more like a smart breadboard, yes you can wire it up for any computation, but that requires changing it's physically topology all the time, it's never a complete product

You've shifted the goalposts entirely. "First Turing-complete" ≠ "first complete product." Those are different claims. ENIAC was universally programmable without hardware rewiring—you loaded different instructions into the same machine. A breadboard needs physical rewiring; ENIAC didn't. That's the critical difference you're ignoring. If completeness means "finished product design," then no early computer qualifies, and the whole historical debate collapses into meaninglessness. What's your actual standard here?

Where did you get that idea? ENIAC absolutely did require rewiring for each new program that is established fact

False. ENIAC used plugboards and function tables to change programs without rewiring the core computation units. Verify it yourself. You're confusing routine maintenance with fundamental redesign. Which source are you citing for this "established fact"?

You just proved me right, plugboards? What's that, oh right exactly what I was referring to, whenever they needed ENIAC to solve a new problem they had to spend days wiring them with a group of women it took forever

Plugboards aren't rewiring the machine—they're loading programs, like inserting a punch card. Changing software isn't disqualifying; it's the whole point. A modern computer needs new code for new problems too. You're calling "different instructions" proof ENIAC wasn't universal. So what makes instruction-loading disqualify Turing-completeness while disk-swapping doesn't?