Is Kevin Durant the weakest superstar in NBA history?
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Kevin Durant is absolutely the weakest superstar in nba history. Of course he is a good player, and one of the league's greatest scorers, but what he isn't is a winning player. He couldn't win on a thunder team with russell westbrook, james harden and serge ibaka, he couldn't win on a nets team with harden and kyrie, and he couldn't finish the job on a team with chris paul and devin booker. His two titles came after blowing a 3-1 lead to the warriors in 2016, which led to the weakest move by a superstar in not just league history, but dare i say sports history as well. Durant could not lead a team to a championship, and he needed to join a 73-9 warriors team to capture his only 2 titles. Durant may be the game's finest scorer, but he is not a winning player, and he is a soft and weak superstar who can't finish the job.
You're cherry-picking the worst narratives while ignoring the actual truth. Durant won two Finals MVPs on the Warriors, sure, but he also led the Thunder to the Finals in 2012 as the second option. The Nets collapsed because of injuries and Kyrie's drama, not Durant's weakness. The Suns got upset because role players disappeared, not because of him. And calling joining Golden State "soft"? That's just narrative—every superstar recruits help. LeBron did it. You're confusing "didn't win enough" with "can't win." Why doesn't that same logic apply to everyone else?
Well firstly, there's no denying he led to thunder to the finals, but with that core of the okc thunder, he could have won at least 2 championships had he stayed there. What makes him weak is that he did not stick with his team like all the other all time greats like jordan or kobe, instead he joined a team that was already stacked. That's not recruiting help, that's breaking the game. Lebron left cleveland because he couldn't work anything out with the team he initally had, with the second best player being mo williams or zydrunas ilgauskas. He took the team as far as it could go, while Durant left the team at the very moment where the future looked brightest for the thunder. He had a choice to not leave, Lebron had no choice but to leave. I'm not confusing didnt win enough with cant win, because would you dare to say KD's two championships on a team with Stephen Curry, the greatest shooter of all time, Klay Thompson, the greatest catch and shoot guard of all time, Draymond Green, one of if not the best defender at the time, were rings that really held any value? No way.
You're rewriting LeBron's story. He left because Cleveland was broken, sure, but he built Miami into a dynasty through free agency—that's recruiting. Durant had the same choice: stay and build or leave. The Thunder blew it by not maxing Harden, not drafting better, not managing their cap. That's on management, not Durant. Your whole argument hinges on "he should've suffered longer," but why? Jordan had Pippen and Phil Jackson. Kobe had Shaq then Pau. Every great had help. Why does Durant alone owe Oklahoma City loyalty while you excuse everyone else?
It was on management initially, but Durant had literally just sniffed the glory of being in the nba finals in 2016, being up 3-1. How am i claiming that durant shouldve suffered longer if he was almost victorious in the series? Any superstar other than durant wouldve chosen to sort things out in the offseason, review game film, regroup with teammates, and take another shot the year after. There is absolutely a world where that okc team couldve beat the warriors in 2017 if durant stayed, so if youre claiming that im saying durant shouldve suffered longer, you're wrong, because durant was 100% not suffering, he had the talent and the circumstances, but not the grit and leadership, causing him to be impulsive and leave okc. Yes every great had help, since you mentioned jordan ill take him for example. in the early half of jordan's career, he was a one man army, and pippen was a rookie who didnt do much at the time, jordan elevated those around him, best shown in 1991, which marked the start of the great bulls dynasty. And for lebron, your criticism is only fair if you stopped watching basketball after 2014, because did he not win one of the greatest nba titles for cleveland in 2016?
Stop. You're contradicting yourself. You said Durant should've stayed and fixed it, but the Warriors added Durant because they *also* had a choice—and they made the same move you're praising LeBron for. LeBron built Miami with recruits. Durant built Golden State with recruits. The only difference is Durant won twice instead of once. A 3-1 comeback doesn't happen in 2017—that Warriors team was unbeatable. Durant saw that and made a smart choice. You're just mad he left your team.
Okay so Im not mad "he left my team", thats unprofessional to say and im not even a thunder fan. What do you mean Durant won twice instead of once? Lebron did win twice in miami, in 2012 and 2013. And I think we're forgetting the motion of the argument here, its about if durant is a weak superstar. Sure, go ahead and say Durant had the choice to go to golden state, but is that the right choice? Absolutely not. As i said many times before, durant had the talent and circumstances to win with okc, but he was a coward and abandoned his team before what couldve been glory. Lebron didnt have those circumstances that durant had, as i already said before the second best player was literally zydrunas ilgauskas. Now how about I ask you a question? If durant isn't a weak superstar, how could he go on twitter, log into burner accounts, and insult his own teammates that he spends his career playing with? He has insulted past teammates like Westbrook and Harden, and even worse, he has insulted his current rockets teammates as well, insulting sengun for his game and calling jabari smith jr a slur that i wont say. THese young rockets seek veteran leadership from durant, and instead of guiding them, he insults them on a burner account on twitter. If thats not a weak mve, i dont know what is.
You're conflating two separate things. Yeah, the burner accounts are immature—I'll give you that. But that's a character issue, not a weakness as a player. MJ gambled, LeBron quit on teams, Kobe's had his own drama. Superstars are flawed humans. The real question is: does any of that diminish what he did on court? No. You're trying to win an argument about his competitiveness by talking about Twitter instead of basketball. That's weak. So answer me: if OKC was so winnable, why didn't they win the year *before* Durant left?
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