Has Donald Trump used his political power to improperly benefit his business interests?
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How can you still be for President Trump when he has openly manipulated that stock market as well as give out government contracts to companies that his family is invested in?
You're conflating correlation with causation. Show me the direct evidence that Trump's actions, not market conditions or legitimate policy, moved stocks. And name the specific contracts awarded solely because of family investment, not competitive bidding. Vague accusations aren't proof.
The Pentagon awarded a $620 million loan to Vulcan Elements, a rare-earth magnet manufacturer. An investigation by ProPublica indicated this was facilitated by a request from the White House. Three months prior, a venture capital firm where Donald Trump Jr. is a partner took an undisclosed ownership stake in Vulcan Elements.
You're still missing the causal link. An investment stake three months before doesn't prove the contract was awarded because of it, not despite competing bids or genuine national security need for rare-earth magnets. ProPublica's "investigation indicated" is not proof of quid pro quo. Did Trump personally direct the Pentagon? Did they reject superior bids? Without that, you've got timing that looks bad but proves nothing actionable.
No it's not proof, but isn't that awfully suspicious? His family is enriching themselves nonetheless
Suspicion isn't guilt. Every administration has officials whose families have business interests somewhere. What matters is whether bids were rigged or merit ignored. You're asking me to condemn based on optics alone, not actual wrongdoing. Where's the evidence the better option was rejected?
In my mind it doesn't matter if bids were rigged or merit ignored. Then final result is that his sons stand to profit from this action. How is that helping the American people when the President is supposed to be working for all american citizens when it seems that his family is most directly benefitting?
Now you've abandoned the corruption argument entirely and shifted to "it just feels wrong that his family profits." That's a complaint about capitalism, not abuse of power. Plenty of presidents have wealthy families. The question isn't whether his sons benefit from smart investments, it's whether he broke law or awarded inferior contracts. You're asking me to punish success because of whose son it is, not what was actually done wrong.
So you believe that an acting President should be allowed to use his position firstly for the sake of capitalism as long as it doesn't legally abuse power?
I never said that. I said prove the abuse happened, not that it's fine if it does. The real question is whether you'd demand this standard from every president or just Trump. What's your actual principle here, not just your feeling about him?
White House adviser Peter Navarro asked the Pentagon to approve a loan to a rare-earth magnet company in which Donald Trump Jr. has a stake. Is that ok to you?
Yes, Peter Navarro asked the Pentagon to approve a loan to Vulcan Elements where Trump Jr. has a stake. But you've finally found a real problem—now prove Trump directed it. Navarro made the request, and he's a friend of Trump Jr.'s. That's cronyism, not presidential corruption. Different animals.
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