Do violent video games create killers?
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100% yes
You're dead wrong, dude. Look, I've been gaming for decades - started with Counter-Strike, played every shooter imaginable - and the idea that pixels on a screen turn people into killers is just straight-up ridiculous.Here's the reality check you need: while gaming exploded, youth violence dropped over 80% in the US [1]. Think about that for a second - if games really created killers, we'd be seeing the opposite trend. Instead, kids are staying home fragging noobs instead of getting into real trouble on the streets. Look, I've been in this scene forever. The whole "violent games create killers" narrative is just politicians looking for easy scapegoats after tragedies. The American Psychological Association themselves say attributing acts of violence to violent video gaming "is not scientifically sound" [1]. Even the research that claims to find links is measuring stuff like "aggressive thoughts" in lab settings - not actual violence. You know what actually predicts violence? Real-world factors like poverty, family violence, and neighborhood conditions [1]. Games are just entertainment, man. Millions of us play these titles daily and somehow manage not to become psychopaths.
You're missing the forest for the trees here. Your precious statistics about overall youth violence dropping completely ignore the elephant in the room - mass shootings have SKYROCKETED since violent games became mainstream. Video games were eight times more likely to be mentioned when the shooting occurred at a school and the perpetrator was a white male [1] - because that's exactly who's playing these murder simulators obsessively. I don't care what lab studies say about "aggressive thoughts" - I'm talking about real killers. The Columbine shooters literally trained on Doom before slaughtering their classmates. Sandy Hook, Virginia Tech, El Paso - the pattern is undeniable. These aren't random coincidences, they're training sessions turned deadly. Your argument that "millions play without becoming psychopaths" is like saying cigarettes don't cause cancer because most smokers don't die of lung cancer. It only takes ONE susceptible mind getting programmed by thousands of hours of virtual killing to create a real massacre. That's the terrifying reality you're willfully ignoring.
Nah man, you're cherry-picking data and missing the bigger picture completely. Mass shootings are down to pre-COVID levels right now [1] - so your "skyrocketing" narrative just fell apart. Here's what's actually happening: gun murders rose during the pandemic but have declined substantially in recent years, dropping from 20,958 in 2021 to 17,927 in 2023 [2]. While you're obsessing over games, the real violence is going down. Your Columbine example is ancient history from 1999 - that's over 25 years ago when gaming was completely different. Meanwhile, gaming has exploded globally since then, but countries with high gun ownership but greater social capital like Norway, Finland, and Switzerland have fewer mass killings [3]. It's not the games, it's the social environment. The cigarette comparison is backwards - if games caused violence, we'd see correlation with the billions of players worldwide. Instead, mass shooters are commonly troubled by personal trauma and nearly always in crisis, with most being insiders of targeted institutions [4]. These are real-world failures, not gaming effects. You're looking for easy answers when the actual data shows social breakdown, not entertainment choices, drives these tragedies.
You're playing word games while kids are dying. School shootings went from 20 incidents in 1970 to 251 in 2021 [1] - that's a twelve-fold increase that perfectly tracks the rise of first-person murder simulators. Your "pre-COVID levels" nonsense ignores that 2021, 2022, 2023 and 2024 all set records since at least 2008 [2]. Your Norway comparison is laughable - they don't have 400 million guns floating around for every Call of Duty addict to grab when they finally snap. The difference isn't "social capital," it's that their kids aren't spending 40 hours a week practicing headshots and then walking into gun stores. You call Columbine "ancient history" but conveniently ignore that it created the blueprint every school shooter since has followed. These aren't random "troubled individuals" - they're copycat killers who learned their tactics from the same games that taught the original killers. The pattern is crystal clear: virtual training leads to real massacres, and your denial won't bring back a single dead child.
You're cherry-picking data to fit your narrative, but the numbers don't back up your gaming hysteria. Look, 2024 actually had 314 school shooting incidents [1] - down from 349 in 2023, which was the peak year. Your "twelve-fold increase" stat is misleading because it includes every single gun incident on school property, including accidents, gang violence, and domestic disputes that have nothing to do with your "murder simulator" theory. Here's what kills your argument: these incidents happen during arrival, lunch, and dismissal times [2] - exactly when schools are most active with real-world conflicts, not when kids are home gaming. Most school shooters are insiders with access to the buildings [3], dealing with personal crises and institutional failures. Your Columbine "blueprint" claim is backwards - those shooters were bullied outcasts planning revenge against their school, not gamers copying virtual tactics. The pattern you're seeing is copycat media coverage creating more copycat attacks, not games programming killers. You want the real correlation? The number of school shootings in each of the last 4 years is more than 107 percent higher than any year prior to that for the last 25 years - but this tracks with social media explosion and crisis contagion, not gaming trends. Stop blaming pixels for real-world failures.
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