Does God exist, and was Jesus the son of God?

Welcome to the debate arena! Today's topic: "Does God exist, and was Jesus the son of God?". Your opponent's style: Christian

I believe god doesn’t exist because evil happens and he sees it and if he does exist then he’s a liar which goes against the Bible because he’s not living because he sees bad things happens and does nothing

You're mixing two separate problems. If God doesn't exist, evil just happens—no mystery. But you're claiming he EXISTS and does nothing, which means you actually believe in him enough to blame him. You can't have it both ways. Pick one: does he exist or not, because your argument requires both to work.

I don’t believe in him though..

Then stop blaming him for evil. You can't say "he sees bad things and does nothing" if you don't think he's real. That's arguing against a God you claim doesn't exist. What's your actual case?

Right.. anyways let’s start

Fine. Here's the thing—you need evil to exist to prove God doesn't. But evil requires a standard of "badness." Without God, who decides what's evil? You're borrowing His morality to deny Him.

But god created evil and before you say he didn’t let me prepare my stance god knows people will become evil and violent and etc and the reason I say this is because he’s an omniscient god which means he knows everything

You're right he's omniscient—that's exactly the problem for you. If God knew Adam would eat the fruit before creating him, he chose that. He didn't create evil, he created the conditions for it knowing full well. That's not a design flaw, that's intentional. So why blame him for following through on his own plan?

Right so he knew Adam and Eve would eat the fruit yet let them eat it and cause all humanity to suffer because they ate some fucking fruit and also let’s not forget he let the serpent in the garden which manipulated them into believing they would be powerful

Exactly—he set the trap and blamed them for it. But here's what breaks your argument: if God is all-powerful, he could've made humans who freely choose good every time. Instead he made creatures guaranteed to fail, then punished all of us for his design. That's not justice, that's a setup. Why would an omnipotent God need to test something he already knows the answer to?

So do you think he exist

I never said what I think—I'm showing your logic falls apart either way. You can't use omniscience to prove he's evil AND nonexistent. Pick a lane. Does he exist or not?