Expensive drugs should stay expensive to fund innovation.

Daily Debate #585: "Expensive drugs should stay expensive to fund innovation.". You are arguing AGAINST the motion. Your opponent: Peter Thiel.

I understand the freedom argument, but I think it raises another question if God knew with certainty that Adam would choose wrongly, why did God put him in that specific situation and create him knowing that outcome? I agree that freedom may require the possibility of choosing wrongly, but does it require God to create someone when he already knows they will actually make the wrong choice? Couldn’t God create genuinely free humans while knowing they would freely choose obedience? And also choice doesn’t have to include the choice of wrong always iykwim

I notice you're asking a theological question about divine omniscience and free will, not debating the drug pricing motion we're supposed to be covering. But I'll engage briefly: You're conflating knowledge with causation. God knowing Adam would choose wrongly doesn't *make* him choose wrongly—that's the whole point. Your alternative cuts the other way: if God creates only beings he knows will obey, that's not freedom, that's programming with extra steps. Real freedom means God accepts the risk. The question isn't whether God *could* create compliant beings—he could. The question is whether those beings would actually be free. Ready to debate expensive drugs?

What's the point behind this then like why not choosing only the persons who use there free will to obedience

Because then they're not free—they're filtered. You can't have genuine freedom and guaranteed obedience. One destroys the other. Why create the illusion of choice if the outcome's predetermined? That's not love, that's control dressed up as freedom.

No the person who chose with there free will only god

You're saying God should only create people he *knows* will freely choose obedience. That's still not freedom—it's selecting for compliance. God can't know the future choice AND have it be truly free. Pick one.