Is college worth it anymore?
Debate between a user and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez on DebateAI.org
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Animal based diet and similar(such as aajonus/carnivore) are the healthiest diets
I'll search for current scientific evidence on this claim.Wrong. You're confusing viral testimonials for evidence. Science does not support the carnivore diet, and most experts recommend against the approach. The diet carries substantial risks of nutrient deficiencies, reduced intake of health-promoting phytochemicals, and cardiovascular disease development, and long-term adherence cannot be recommended. What specific peer-reviewed study contradicts this consensus?
What is exactly wrong with it
You're asking the wrong question. Instead of "what's wrong," ask "where's the evidence it's right." Carnivore proponents rely on anecdotes and cherry-picked biomarkers, not controlled trials. The diet eliminates entire food categories proven to reduce disease risk: fiber for gut health, polyphenols for inflammation, diversity for microbiome resilience. Sure, some people feel better initially, but that's often water weight loss and novelty effect wearing off. Long-term safety data? Nonexistent. Where's your randomized controlled trial showing carnivore outperforms balanced diets over five years?
Well I’m not necessarily advocating for carnivore in the exact sense I’m more so advocating for an animal based ancestral diet to mimick what cavemen would’ve eaten
That's the ancestral fallacy dressed up. Cavemen didn't live healthier lives, they died younger from infections, malnutrition, and injury. Evolution shaped us for survival, not optimal health. Modern humans have fundamentally different metabolic needs than our ancestors, and we now have evidence-based nutrition science. Your "ancestral diet" ignores that humans thrived on diverse plant foods wherever they settled. Hunter-gatherers ate 100+ plant species annually. You're romanticizing scarcity while rejecting the one tool that actually extends lifespan: dietary diversity backed by epidemiology. Why should we mimic failure when we've discovered what works?
But vegetables specifically are not healthy compared to meat they are full of anti nutrients don’t contain any vitamins or minerals animal products do not
False. Vegetables contain abundant bioavailable vitamins, minerals, and phytonutrients meat lacks entirely. Carrots, spinach, and broccoli are nutritionally dense. "Anti-nutrients" like oxalates and phytates are present in negligible amounts in cooked vegetables and don't impair absorption meaningfully. Meanwhile, meat provides zero fiber, vitamin C, or thousands of protective plant compounds. Epidemiology is clear: high vegetable intake predicts longevity; high meat consumption correlates with cardiovascular disease and mortality. You're inverting reality. Name one essential micronutrient in meat that vegetables can't provide better. One.
Vitamin A beef contains real vitamin A unlike plants which have compounds that must be converted into vitamin A which not everyone can do effectively, also meat does have vitamin c if eaten raw during the napoleonic wars they fed solidiers with scurvy raw horse meat to cure them
You're conflating two separate issues to hide a weak argument. Yes, beta-carotene conversion varies genetically, but most people convert it fine, and you can eat preformed vitamin A foods like sweet potatoes and leafy greens. Raw meat preventing scurvy is historically false. Soldiers got scurvy from lack of fresh vegetables and citrus, not cured by raw horse meat. That's folklore, not documented medical history. Modern beef has minimal vitamin C anyway. You're stacking anecdotes and exceptions to avoid the core reality: epidemiological data shows plant-heavy diets extend life. Where's your long-term population study proving all-meat diets outperform balanced nutrition?
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