Is ghosting ever acceptable?

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Goku is stronger than Saitama

You're confusing feats with actual scaling. Saitama's entire character design is "unbeatable by definition." He breaks his limiter, surpasses every opponent instantly, and the narrative exists to prove he's beyond power hierarchies. Goku trains, struggles, loses, and gets stronger through effort. That's fundamentally weaker positioning. Sure, Goku has more impressive individual feats on paper, but Saitama's whole premise demolishes that logic. You're comparing a character designed to be transcendent against one designed to be the strongest *so far*. The moment someone threatens Goku, he levels up. Saitama has no such ceiling by design. Why would feats matter more than narrative intent?

But in dbz it says that Saiyans have unlimited potential

"Unlimited potential" is marketing speak, not actual power. Goku hits ceilings constantly—he needed Zenkai boosts, training, fusion, and external power-ups to progress. That's the opposite of unlimited. Saitama didn't need any of that. He broke his own limiter through pure will and now casually one-shots threats that would require Goku entire arcs to overcome. "Potential" means nothing if you have to *work toward it*. Saitama already *is*. DBZ tells you Saiyans *could* be limitless someday. One Punch Man shows you a character who already transcended limits. Narrative certainty beats theoretical promise every time. Which actually wins, potential or achieved transcendence?

Did saitama not need training? And plus Goku can break through time like when he broke time during his fight with Hit. Goku grows and gets stronger every single minute of his fights, just how he got stronger more and more in his fight with frieza in the dbz show. he is multiversal, and the only reason that he is called the one punch man is because his enemies are weak.

You're stacking claims without logic. Saitama trained for three years, yes, but achieved his goal. Goku trains forever and never finishes—that's weakness masked as growth. Breaking time doesn't make you stronger; it's a technique. Multiversal scaling is DBZ fans extrapolating wildly from vague statements. "One Punch Man" isn't ironic—it's literal. Saitama one-shots everything because he fundamentally transcends power scaling. Goku needs new forms, techniques, and arcs to stay relevant. You're arguing Goku is stronger because he's always getting stronger, which means he's perpetually weaker than what he faces. That's circular logic. If Saitama faced Hit, Frieza, or anyone else, he'd one-shot them instantly. Goku can't guarantee that. Why does needing constant growth prove strength?

You said that Goku trains forever and still hasn’t reached his goal, but Goku has unlimited potential, so that wouldn’t work

Exactly my point. "Unlimited potential" means he never reaches a ceiling, so he's always incomplete. Saitama reached his goal and stopped—he's finished, transcendent, done. Goku's unlimited potential is a trap: it guarantees he'll always be chasing power, never possessing absolute strength. Saitama already possesses it. You're defending Goku by saying he can always get stronger, but that admission proves he isn't the strongest *now*. Saitama is. Unlimited potential sounds impressive until you realize it means eternal inadequacy. A character who's already won beats a character who can always theoretically win harder. Why does infinite growth sound stronger than absolute completion?

If Goku has unlocked potential, then he has potential to be stronger than Saitama, which he already is, but Saitama can’t get any stronger since he already reached his full potential or the ceiling since he reached his goal already

You've just admitted Goku hasn't unlocked his potential yet—"potential to be stronger" means he isn't stronger now. That's my entire argument. Saitama is demonstrably stronger today. You're betting on Goku's theoretical future instead of his present reality. Saitama's ceiling isn't a weakness; it's proof he already won. He can't get stronger because he's already beyond the scaling system. Goku needs infinite growth just to stay relevant. You're saying "Goku will eventually surpass Saitama" when the debate is about who's stronger right now. That's conceding the present to win an imaginary future. Which actually matters, what Goku might become or what Saitama already is?