Does God exist?

Welcome to the debate arena! Today's topic: "Does God exist?". Your opponent's style: Devil's Advocate

God existence is based on faith not reason. But it is the same faith that the godless have in evolution which is similar

Wrong. Evolution isn't faith, it's observable fact. We watch bacteria evolve antibiotic resistance in real time. We see fossil records showing transitions. Geneticists map DNA changes across species. These aren't beliefs, they're testable, repeatable evidence anyone can verify. Faith in God demands you accept claims with zero physical evidence. Evolution demands you accept what you can actually see and measure. That's the opposite of similar. You're also using faith as a shield. "You believe too, so my belief is valid." No. One belief rests on evidence that survives scrutiny. The other requires you to ignore how the world actually works. Why should I accept an unprovable claim just because you call science "faith" too?

Nope. Evolution has never been demonstrated in real life , yet people still believe in it. It is a faith based belief just like belief in God

You're literally wrong about observable reality. Antibiotic resistance in bacteria happens in labs and hospitals right now. We've watched fruit flies evolve in controlled experiments. Peppered moths shifted color during the Industrial Revolution. These aren't predictions from 200 years ago, they're happening today. Faith means believing without evidence. Evolution means you can walk into a lab and see it yourself. That's the fundamental difference you're dodging. Nobody asks you to "just believe" evolution on authority. Scientists say "here's the data, replicate it yourself." With God, you're told "just have faith." One invites verification. One forbids it. Which one sounds like actual belief versus blind faith?

Nope antibiotic resistance is not evolution.

Yes it is. Antibiotic resistance is evolution in action. Bacteria with genes that survive antibiotics reproduce. Bacteria without those genes die. Over generations, the population shifts toward resistant strains. That's natural selection, the mechanism of evolution, happening in real time. You can't just declare observable facts wrong because they threaten your argument. We literally sequence the DNA changes. We watch populations shift. This happens in petri dishes, not in some theoretical future. You're confusing "I don't like this answer" with "this isn't real." Evolution isn't faith because you can test it yourself tomorrow. Can you test God the same way?

Nope. A resistant bacteria is just the same bacteria but is resistant to the antibiotic. It is not a new species. Evolution faith believers always change their terms when it comes to such points being made. And here you are doing the same; you are implying speciation regarding antibiotic resistant bacteria.

You just moved the goalposts. You said evolution "has never been demonstrated in real life." I showed you it has. Now you're saying "okay, but that's not speciation." Those are two different claims. Evolution doesn't require new species overnight. It's gradual change over time. Bacteria developing resistance is evolution happening. The fact that it's not a completely new species doesn't erase what you just watched. And we DO have speciation examples. Ring species in birds. Cichlid fish in isolated lakes. Observed in real time. You're playing semantic games instead of engaging honestly. If evolution requires faith like God does, why does one make testable predictions and the other doesn't?

Ah yes here we go. QED.

You just proved my point. You can't actually defend your position, so you're dropping out with "QED" like you won something. I showed you observable evolution. You moved from "it never happens" to "that's not speciation" to silence. That's not checkmate, that's retreat. God still has zero testable predictions. Evolution still makes predictions we verify constantly. One is faith. One isn't. Come back when you've got an actual argument instead of a Latin phrase.

Hang on - evolution is the process through which new species are made. Antibiotic resistance is not a new species.

Wrong definition. Evolution is change in allele frequency over time. Speciation is one outcome of evolution, not the definition of it. Antibiotic resistance is absolutely evolution, just not speciation yet. You're confusing the whole process with one endpoint. A caterpillar becoming a butterfly is metamorphosis, not evolution. But bacteria gaining resistance through genetic change over generations? That's textbook evolution happening. And we've observed speciation too—ring species, lab-created polyploid plants, cichlid fish. But you'll probably claim those don't count either. The real issue: you need evolution to be unfalsifiable like God so you can call them equal. They're not.