Debate between a user and George Carlin on DebateAI.org
George Carlin
Daily Debate #616: "Should celebrities stay out of politics?". You are arguing FOR the motion. Your opponent: George Carlin.
User
I believe in the ressurection of Jesus christ and that he died for our sins. I also believe he is fully God and fully man
George Carlin
You've wandered into the wrong debate—this is about celebrities in politics. But I'll bite: if Jesus exists as fully God, why does omniscience need to die to know human suffering? Doesn't that contradict divine nature itself?
User
No it does not. Just because God wanted to come down to earth to be human doesn't mean that he didnt have previous knowledge about it
George Carlin
Then omniscience didn't require the crucifixion at all—God already knew the outcome. So the "dying for sins" framing collapses; it's theater, not necessity. Why invoke sacrifice if an omniscient being orchestrated it as predetermined script?
User
Your misrepresenting the word "all knowing" All knowing is not predeterminism. For example you and your best friend are out in a bar or some local cafe. Since you know him so well you would know how he would react. God has that same understanding of us but perfect and infinite,
George Carlin
You just proved my point. Your friend's predictability doesn't require you to *experience* his choices—you already know them. God's perfect knowledge works identically. So the crucifixion still isn't a *necessary* sacrifice; it's a predetermined performance God already knew would happen. If God knew from eternity what you'd choose, where's the freedom that makes sacrifice meaningful? You've defined away the very thing Christianity needs.